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#200 | You Can Turn Life Into Anything: A Deeper Dive Into My Journey Ft. Jamie Damsker [Guest Interviewer]
In this special 200th episode of Win Today, I take the guest seat while former guest Jamie Damsker hosts a powerful conversation about turning pain into purpose. Through stories of heartbreak, healing, and persistence, I challenge listeners to examine the limiting beliefs they’ve accepted as truth.
Just as this podcast has hit an amazing milestone, so can you, in any endeavor. Every week, this podcast serves as an invitation for the world to take one step towards their ideal life and break past what may be holding them back.
Key Takeaways:
- Your deepest pain can become your greatest gift when you rewrite your narrative.
- Limiting beliefs often dissolve when you ask, "What makes that true?"
- Consistency becomes effortless when it's part of your identity, not just a goal.
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And I promised myself that day that I'm never going to carry this on as a six, seven-year-old kid. I'm never going to put my future family through this and the people that I love through this right now, and I've never lost sight of that. But if a kid that grew up in a broken household that was angry at the world, grew up in a broken household that was angry at the world, that wasn't the most athletically gifted and perhaps didn't put a whole lot of investment into academics until we ended up right here, can go on to then create now a top 2% globally performing podcast and a few other cool things that you said about me, so can you. So can anybody listening. It's available. Whatever you want truly whatever you want is available to you when you can push past whatever story you're telling yourself, or rather, when you understand whatever story you may be telling yourself that's holding you back.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the Wednesday podcast, a weekly resource thoughtfully crafted to help people build and refine discipline, accomplish their goals, fortify their mindsets and be of service to somebody in this world. My name is Ryan Cass and I am your host, and it is my mission and commitment to deliver amazing episodes to you every week, where you'll learn from myself, or a renowned expert in their field. We love helping people win in every aspect of their lives, and you can help us win by sharing the show with somebody that you believe will benefit from it, subscribing and leaving a rating and review. We believe that everybody in this world is meant to do something great with their lives and we're here to help play a role in that. Thank you for tuning in and let's win today. All right, everyone, we're doing something a role in that. Thank you for tuning in and let's win today.
Speaker 1:All right, everyone, we're doing something a little different today. It's very special. This is episode number 200. And I have the opportunity to sit across from somebody that I deeply admire, someone that I look up to, who has been on the podcast before on episode 141. And here we are, 59 weeks later, episode number 200. And we are keeping a commitment that we made nearly two years ago now that Jamie Damsker is going to host WIN today today, and I am the guest. So I get to be a guest on my own show and Jamie, nobody else in the world I'd rather do this with. So off to you, mr Host.
Speaker 2:Thank you, ryan, and welcome to your podcast. Thank you, I love saying that it was.
Speaker 2:I think you told me today, june of 2023, when we declared this was going to happen and it wasn't even your 100th episode yet and for me it wasn't some casual request or commitment. I had no doubt, you know, a hundred plus weeks ago, that we'd be here not necessarily in this place, but we'd be here doing this, and that's a testament to you and your commitment and your perseverance and your consistency, and we're going to get into all that. I could not be more honored and, most importantly for me, in addition to saying congratulations on number 200, like it's a significant milestone but most importantly for me, I appreciate the trust you're extending to me to like, take your baby and host it. I have a sense, while we'll have a good time and we're going to dig into some things, there's probably a little bit of something inside. Like you know, this is yours, you've created it and you're sort of taking your hand off the wheel and I appreciate you for that. So thank you, if anything.
Speaker 1:I see it as you're here to enhance it, and that's how I experience you is. You enhance lives, you've enhanced my life and you've enhanced the show, and you get to do it again. I love it.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Well, my intention of the podcast today and I can appreciate that we're going to have listeners and viewers who are very familiar with you and the format and your mission and your story and even the incredible stories of your guests you're likely going to have some people who are new to the podcast as well, and where I want to take us is to honor them as well, not to belabor some of the things that I'm certain you brought up before, but to me, I have a desire for us to one absolutely celebrate an incredible milestone. I have no statistics on how many podcasts make it to 200. And even if they do, I have a sense Rarely do they do it with the pace and consistency that you've done this, and while I want to honor the podcast and celebrate it where I'm sitting, the podcast to me is simply representative of something bigger in you and what you're about, and I'd love to use our time together for the benefit of not just me selfishly, but your viewers and listeners, to learn a bit more about you. Like to dig deep on the Ryan Cass that has you. Celebrate your 200th podcast and look for the benefit of everyone.
Speaker 2:I have the benefit of knowing you Like I've known you for a few years. We share a bit of a common background, at least academically. We're sitting here at the campus of our alma mater, the Citadel. We've been in a lot of conversations together. I've been a guest on your podcast. I've watched your work not just on the podcast, other things as well and I just have this desire for the world to know, not just hey, here's a guy who hosts a podcast, he hit 200 and there'll be more, but like what has you do it?
Speaker 2:And the last thing I want to say is a bit of a preamble, which is kind of drives what I just said. You know, most people, when they come into the public eye or they become known by a group of people, have gotten to some place that's notable, and your guests are no exception, and you're no exception. And so for me it's almost like when you finally got a chance to know who Tiger Woods was, or you got a chance to know who your favorite politician, your astronaut or your favorite successful business CEO is. They'll put out books and they'll talk about what works for them and what doesn't, but the thing that we can't see, it's impossible to see, is Tiger Woods in the middle of the night hitting 500, pitching wedges from the trap, or the number of business failures that that person had before they made it onto the Fortune magazine cover to the likely thoughts you've had, and I want to talk about what you have going on in your world to give it real context that likely likely, I'm not saying it happened had you certain times say is it worth it? And I say that because there's people who are listening and watching, who, like they're going through their day-to-day and for them, they think they're ordinary. Now, you and I know they're not ordinary. There's no such thing as an ordinary person and I would love for them to get even just a modicum of a taste of when you were on episode four or when you were on zero and you were thinking about it and you had all these other things going on in your life. Or I want to briefly mention for the new people, what happened on January 23rd 2019. I think that's the date, like all of those things that get in the way, like they have, in their way, their own version of it. In spite of that, you work through it, and if we could give your listeners a taste of what it took to get here to 200, and, as importantly, what it takes to get you to 400,. To me, as much as I enjoy the celebration of 200, if one person says to you, dude, thank you for that conversation in episode 200, as a result of that I went out and did this with my kid, which I didn't know possible, or I went and got that job Like. To me that would make all of this worth it. So with that I have to share. I made a list top of my head and I looked up a few things of what you have going on in your life. Like I want to give everyone an appreciation. So we have this win today.
Speaker 2:Podcast, that's obviously something you're doing. You've got your one day organization, which I kind of consider the umbrella organization, one W-O-N I love how you the play on the word one day. You have the unshakable discipline, masterminding course. You're a public speaker, podcaster. You have the Be the First One Scholarship you've put together and I want you to mention that a little bit, especially for people who haven't heard of it the Breaking Ribbons Fundraiser, which is so heartwarming, where you give back to people who have challenges of cancer, and how that drives you for another thing you do, which is this ultra-endurance athlete and all the things that you've done and the hundred-plus miles you've run. You've got the Champion Tribe community which you've shared with me. You've got the quarterly dinner that you do. You've got your family, like. You've posted things about your commitment to your family. It's amazing. You're a big brother, seventh year, I think.
Speaker 2:I heard you say recently and if I stopped right there, people would go I'm exhausted, how does he do it? But there's one more thing I haven't mentioned. You happen to be a Boeing executive, a full-time job. I mean, that's a lot. It's amazing. And seemingly in all of those areas and I know they ebb and flow you come to it with an energy and a rabid mindset of service. That's inspiring. And I'm not saying it like everyone who's listening needs to go out and have that long list of things. I'm saying it like I want them to listen to you because you've got something to teach us you do. Now. I don't want to belabor the past too much, but I think it would be useful if you can briefly tell us a bit about your upbringing. That, from everything you've told me and I've heard you speak about, is really the catalyst for where you are today. Would you just speak into that and thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, jamie, you need to host my podcast more often. I appreciate how you've brought yourself to this discussion and all of the work that you did so that we can have a truly powerful discussion today. You said some cool things about me. Maybe people hear that and they think, oh wow, that's a lot of stuff going on. But to me, the greatest accomplishment is helping one person get where they want to go or to achieve their one day. That's the coolest thing, regardless of what a rap sheet might say about me and really what fuels that. Going into your question is going back to my earliest years and the greatest gift that I've ever received in this life. Now and I can say that with a smile on my face Now the greatest gift I've ever received is coming up through a broken household, a home with a systemic trend of alcoholism, mental and emotional abuse.
Speaker 1:Often. I found myself playing middleman to my parents from a very young age and developed some anxiety because I see that one of my first roles in life, besides being a son, was being a protector, making sure that my little sister didn't see what was going on when my dad, who I love to death, struggled very deeply with alcohol and that came home and then a lot of chaotic scenes would ensue between him and my mom that I was often witness to. That I don't wish on any young kid to see, and I grew up angry at the world, wondering, asking the why me? Question. I'm the victim. If I didn't have this going on in my house, then I could live a life like Jamie, and I don't even know what your life really looks like other than the little tiny external picture that I've received and then, coupled with the story that I've told myself that Jamie must have this perfect life. He doesn't have all this stuff going on at home. I don't know that.
Speaker 1:What I know now is that that's why I do so much to help people and serve others and show them that, regardless of what you've come up through whether it was my situation as a little boy, being angry at the world and seeing things that you would never want a child to see to maybe you did grow up in a home with loving parents and there was no chaos and there was family was truly at the core it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:We have the ability to create anything that we desire in this world, really thinking about serving the little boy that I once was and being able to show that little boy that, hey, this is actually this tough stuff you're going through.
Speaker 1:You could do so much with it. And when people see that, because everyone's got something that drives them or I believe everybody has something that drives them once they can see how they can leverage that for good, the world truly is your oyster. And that's the now byproduct of the things you mentioned, that the cool things I do today in service of others really goes back to that young Ryan being the middleman, thinking that, man, if life just was different here, then I could do X, y, z, when really had all the tools that I needed to succeed the whole time, just didn't discover them until later years. And now can help other people discover that, hey, you've got everything you need and we get to live a beautiful life. And now can help other people discover that, hey, you've got everything you need and we get to live a beautiful life and some gifts are just packaged a little bit differently and that's okay.
Speaker 2:That's beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. You have spoken before about like you've impacted people of all ages and you've shared that you gravitate towards the youth. A lot of your public speaking, I know, is in middle schools and high schools and there's just something about getting them when they're younger. It just you're. In fact, I watch a podcast you're on not too long ago and your face lit up when you talked about it.
Speaker 2:So I have two children, two boys, and one of them just graduated high school last year. One's a rising senior and it has me wonder. You know, they're great kids and sometimes they speak into really big things and oftentimes they speak about things you go yeah, that's what a teenager worries about. If you're with especially, let's say, a child who doesn't have I'm gonna use this word, it could sound funny the benefit of that trauma like you had, the thing that can really wake you up your kid is just out there having a fine life. How do you connect with them in a way where you can create impact if there's no obvious toehold or common trauma or thing to get over, to sort of rally around in the conversation?
Speaker 1:regardless of if the child has something that is a traumatic experience or something that's really heavy on the heart versus maybe not. I believe everybody has desires and things that they love, and I had a mentor of mine share that. It's important to create connection first over content meaning. Let's really get to know each other before we dive into the what. So because the what we do, that could change any day and if everything was taken away from us, we'd still have things that are truly meaningful, that we love, that we believe in, that are truly meaningful, that we love, that we believe in. So I would identify what those things are for that youth first, and then build upon that and just by being interested in them and finding out what really excites them, then we go from there. Then we go from there.
Speaker 1:And if there is a child that perhaps maybe has a traumatic experience like I think about my little brother, josiah that has not been closely connected to his father, and getting through to Josiah at first was a little difficult, even though I was working towards understanding his interests, but when I got to dig a little bit deeper as we built a stronger relationship and got him to open up about what's really holding him back with his father. Every time I pick him up now it's like a whole weight came off his back. He's singing in the car now. He's dancing, he's doing all sorts of things. He's being who he is when he's with his mom, not with me. But I believe it goes back to find out what's interesting to somebody, be interested in them, and then you get to do interesting things, have interesting interactions. So that's my best take on how to really connect. Yeah, regardless of trauma or not, be interested and usually that's how someone will find you to be interesting and want to spend more time with you and share things and open up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you used the word connection before, which is a word that resonates with me. Do you find, given how society today we seem to have less connection some of it's due to technology and some of it's due to the polarization in the world how has that affected your work and the people you work with? Has there been anything obvious about it, anything that's had you change your approach, or anything like that? Change your approach or or, yeah, anything like that?
Speaker 1:I find that some people are slower to, or more hesitant to, open up at times and to break through that, especially with the youth. When I'm going to speak in a school or even a college, a lot of youth I find now are less likely to engage off the rip. Or who is this guy? And one thing that I have found to be a superpower is vulnerability, and I share with them my story, my flaws, the things I've struggled with. When I go in depth about the stories and the experiences that I had as a youth, then I find that most people see me as, hey, that's what makes me human. That's what makes me human, regardless of what a piece of paper says about me and the cool things. Like I've come from no more advantaged background than maybe you may think I have and what I'm getting at is by sharing and being open about my flaws and the things that have torn me down temporarily my flaws and the things that have torn me down temporarily. It creates powerful conversations with people. People come, they want to open up, they start to share more about their lives. So I find that in the world where it may seem more difficult to connect, where I've been more vulnerable about my story is where those walls I feel like are broken down, because what we see now, especially in social media, is often highlight reels and all these people that are succeeding.
Speaker 1:It looks like a lot of people have quote the formula and they might be intimidated by the person on stage thinking this guy's got the formula. It's like no, the guy standing on stage right now, or wherever I'm at, has developed a formula from a very, very dark place and continues to refine the formula. I feel like that's the journey we're all on right now. How cool would that be if life was just this linear path. Actually, I don't even know if it'd be that cool, because it's the bumps that I feel like I appreciate the most and what I want people to be able to extract the most value from. Every bump is a gold mine filled with lessons and growth and the next best version of you, and by sharing that, I find that I'm able to help break down through the walls and connect with people faster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're speaking into exactly what I had hoped you would. What I said earlier about it's not all about the social media glossy finished product. It's raw and at times it could really bring you to a grinding halt if you let it. And everyone's got their own version of that, even if it's small in comparison to what they may see on the news. Or, like the guest you had last week, the paraplegic, the gentleman with the rugby axe and to hear. And, by the way, if anyone's listening, if they haven't watched episode 199, please do. It's very, very moving. But there's a guy who he has a book, he has an attitude that healthy people who can walk without thinking about it, wiggle their toes out thinking about it, would complain about things, and he takes nothing for granted. But he spoke about the dark part in the hospital at first. And it's so beautiful to be able to juxtapose, as you're doing right now, the I was about to say before and after. But it's really not. It's just not that clean cut. It's how it was and how it is slash could be, and I find the messiness in that is really beautiful.
Speaker 2:You talk often about generational impact and you do it from a place of interrupting existing generational curses or downfalls, and what I infer from that is that you have an implication that there's an opportunity to create different generational impact. An upgraded generational impact Is there in your current journey, with all the work you've done, whether it's youth or grownups. Can you think of one or a couple of examples where something happened with the person you were with, that you went? That's a generational impact that just happened in front of me, like the change was breathtaking.
Speaker 1:Quite a few come to mind. And what's really neat and this is part of why I love this work so much and every week, every Monday, is an opportunity, I believe, to spark that, and there have been on numerous occasions. Maybe a particular episode came out. I've found the ones where I've been most vulnerable about my past, as I am right now, is an invitation for somebody, one person, to take perhaps a stand against the generational curse that they're facing and they want to break. So there have been multiple instances of folks that have tuned into an episode and have reached out to me that, ryan, as a result of episode 100, whatever the case, 50, it's been going on more and more, which I'm grateful for. Here's what I did I had a conversation with my mother or father that we've allowed to persist in our household.
Speaker 1:It's tough to extract just one, because I want to highlight that a big reason why this continues, why we continue to show up and why we're going to go to 200, 300, 400.
Speaker 1:Because it's so much bigger than me, it's so much bigger than us right here. One conversation can literally impact generations, because we can spark one person to make one decision that is going to change the course for their current family, their future family, and perhaps that's what sets the tone for the future cast family or the damskir family, or whoever is listening am not extracting a singular instance of this. I've seen through the result of being open whether it's on the podcast, linkedin, anywhere that people are making decisions that maybe they wouldn't have made at that particular moment in time if it wasn't for pouring my heart and soul out there in the name of service and I feel like that's the greatest accomplishment of all time is that is sparking change in another person's life, helping them get where they want to go, helping them break a generational curse. It's the most, one of the most beautiful things I feel that somebody can do if that's an opportunity that is available to them in this world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it, If you're okay with it. I'm not going to quite let you off the hook of that question. I want to ask a little bit differently and my intention of doing so is I want to give people an opportunity to see something for themselves, Like not using the term, like generational is analogous almost to talking about solving world hunger. It's a big thing, but it's so enormous I might not be able to see even a near-term finish line, and I would love for everyone in their own world and their own challenges to see an opening from what you've experienced with this work you've done like a light bulb that goes on like, oh, I could handle that and I can do it pretty efficiently. So I'm going to ask the question a little bit from a different angle.
Speaker 2:In all of the examples that you conjured up in my last question, are there any examples of the feedback you've gotten where the person's velocity from the issue to a favorable outcome was such that when they shared it with you you had a thought like that was fast. The impact from the thought, the idea, from your influence on them to the impact of their life, not just the hey, Ryan, thank you, I'm going to go do X as a result, which is beautiful too, but they actually can point at or share with you. And as a result of that work, X happened in a short amount of time.
Speaker 1:Any examples that come to mind A particular person reached out about and I don't want you to violate someone's privacy, so if you can share enough detail to give context without violation, that would be great there was one individual that was really struggling with a longstanding, tumultuous relationship with a parent, relationship with a parent, and they were desperately wanting to shift that, recreate it, take it down a different course, but either didn't know how or perhaps didn't feel the invitation to right. It occurred to me that this individual was making up stories about how everything wouldn't work, creating stories about how things wouldn't work versus approaching it with some curiosity. That well, what if I do go and have a conversation with my mother about these certain things that have been really wrecking our relationship for years now, and with the intent that maybe it doesn't instantly solve it, but it opens the door for us to work on it together, because not all of these changes, especially if we're talking about influencing or creating generational impact, isn't instantaneous. How awesome would that be. I did this one thing and it was all gone, solved, and I think about even the relationship with my father and where that was and where it's gone. It took years of work, years and inconsistent.
Speaker 1:So, going back, this individual and their relationship with her mother, she, as a result of a combination of a podcast and some things that I'd been vulnerable about, had a conversation with her mother and poured her heart out on the table. Put it out there here. Mom, I'm coming at you with a place from love. I love you. I love you and I want our relationship to the next five years to look completely opposite of what the last five years have. I understand that I may have contributed X, y, z and, and I could see how that probably could have made you feel. What does that do? It lowers her mom's walls. Now her mom comes in and these folks are working towards a beautiful relationship and talk to each other now and from my understanding, I'm sure there's probably been bumps along the road, but there's love at the center now that I believe they both wanted to get through to each other but perhaps we're creating stories about how they couldn't do it and one person took one step, shared what they believe, contributed to it not working well.
Speaker 1:And here we are now and that's what I wish a lot of people would understand about just about anything in life, whether it's repairing or breaking a generational curse, launching a podcast, running an ultra marathon, anything. One person, one thing, one step. Let's start there. You want to run 100 miles? Put your left foot in front of your right foot. Or you want to run a marathon. Put your left foot in front of your right foot. Or you want to run a marathon? Put your left foot in front of your right foot, put your shoes on, go out the door, stay committed. Things will get better or you will get closer to your desired result. I wish there was. Rather, I feel that we don't often take action towards the things that we desire the most because we create all of these complexities that really aren't there, and that's something that you've really taught me and made such a huge impact on my life.
Speaker 2:On Don't make this about me now. This is your celebration, but I give you credit for that. I appreciate you for that. I give you credit for that, thank you. I love that story and that was a result of a direct interaction with you. Or is that that person watching one of your podcasts?
Speaker 1:A combination of. I knew this person Right, they had listened to a particular episode, because some of my solos I mean I, I continue to lay everything out on the table. Yeah, and it's a form of sure, it's a form of healing for me and becoming more grounded in those things. But more so I see it as it's an invitation and encouragement to others.
Speaker 1:Hey, by being vulnerable or by taking the opportunity to share your story or what's going on, it doesn't need to be on a podcast or the whole world, but just get it out. Even if you have to start just on paper and it's just with you, great, let it out. And then to one person, man, that's where I feel like you really get to begin to experience the endless possibilities that we have for our lives. And so how can I contribute to that to the world? Okay, well, this happens to be one vehicle in which, every Monday, I get the opportunity to do that. Maybe, and maybe, maybe it's that invitation for the one person that needed it the most. Whether they've listened to the episode previously, to their subscriber, this is their first one they're listening to. I believe it's an opportunity, week in, week out, and that's one of the many reasons why we continue to come back, why we're at 200 and why this is going to keep going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guarantee it will if I have anything to do with it. So you speak about that first step, that first just do the first thing. Do you still find times when you're just taking inventory of your life where you discover there's a thing you haven't done that about before?
Speaker 1:Is there anything if?
Speaker 2:I'm hearing you correctly that perhaps I deeply desire that I haven't taken the first step towards yet, or maybe you have, but not too long ago you discovered hey, I haven't, and I've gone to do it. What I'm desiring to discover, from your perspective, and the only one you could speak about accurately is yourself what has you, when you discover that and maybe it's in the past for you, which is fine what has you not had taken that first step?
Speaker 1:Well, what occurs to me is most useful to share here is being in a committed relationship, and you know Christina, my girlfriend. Some folks know Christina. Christina is the first woman that I have. We'll call it formally dated or called a girlfriend at the time. We've been together for about two years now, but leading up to that it's been seven years where I intentionally shied away from relationships, and that's because the one prior to that I thought I had life figured out.
Speaker 1:When I graduated from here, this beautiful place that we're sitting in, that we both call our home and our alma mater, I thought I had life figured out in that I was dating a woman for about two years. That met at a leadership conference in Atlanta. She went to USC and we both moved out to St Louis. She was going to graduate school at Washington University, which is a prestigious private school. I had my job at Boeing, lined up in a prestigious rotation program. Life was made, I got it. I got that. I got it. All I gotta do is work for the next 20, 30 years, work my way up the corporate ladder and we're gonna get married, have kids and it's just nothing else to worry about and got one of the another great gift in my life that about a year in we had just moved to a new place, got the dog we were volunteering at a dog shelter. Got our great Pyrenees Izzy and she had a six-week break in between year one and year two of graduate school Went to go travel the world as one should. When else are we going to have six weeks off in our working lives? It's a little difficult. Are we going to have six weeks off in our working lives? It's a little difficult.
Speaker 1:And at the end of that I sensed that something was off and I had that similar gut feeling that I got as a child when I knew things were about to go down at the house, and that intuition has fortunately served me well but at times creates unnecessary anxiety. I came home from work and everything was gone, Place cleared out, and I was completely shaken. And I was completely shaken. And at that point the story I told myself is relationships are bad. How did you get yourself in this position? How did you not see this coming? You're a failure. Look at what your parents have been through. Your parents are divorced. Look what you saw growing up when your father got caught Like I'm not going to, I'm not going to invest in a relationship. So of course, in the meantime, over those seven years, I had dated many great women.
Speaker 1:But when it came time to the commitment discussion, I was out not willing to take a step, not willing to open my heart up to my own fault and continuing to leverage the story that I told myself that I'm going to get hurt again. No-transcript, and let's see what happens if I empty it. And although the last two years they haven't been perfect but have grown I don't know which relationship is absolutely perfect but have grown so much and found really did what I told other. What I tell other people to do is you know, lower, lower your walls and you get to experience possibilities.
Speaker 1:Through this I've gotten to experience a whole different side of myself and work through the false stories that I've been telling myself for seven years. And now I get to catch myself occasionally when I might be seeping back into that previous version of oh, don't do that, you're going to get hurt. Hold on, what evidence do I have that supports that claim? I don't, but that's something that I'd say I'm proud of and that I'm no longer living a life where I feel that other people are going to intentionally hurt me and I deserve to have loving relationships and to create loving relationships. And if that is true, then we must step forward and be open to this great woman here and here we are, man I hope she watches this, just that one segment.
Speaker 2:So I want to add a little bit of color to what you said and with the intention of it serving your listeners. What I heard you say is in response to my question. It's a beautiful example you used about what? Has you not take that first step? It's a story and most importantly, or what I mine within this idea of it being a story, is what accompanies that story, at least in your case and I would say it's in every story is there's a fear. There's a fear of whatever happened in the past is going to happen again and it could freeze us.
Speaker 2:And what I love about what you shared is most people can relate to a relationship issue, maybe not as traumatic as coming home to an empty house, but crossed words with a spouse, a child, who doesn't want to behave, and even expand it more, ryan, which is what I love what you just shared. Someone takes a risk on a business and it fails, or someone loses their job and there's a withdrawal. There's a, the stories that come with it and the the like what you did for seven years. I'm I can't say this like it's very accurate, but it could be somewhat. You paid a cost for seven years. Now it turned out fine, christina, and there's people who are watching you right now learning from your story no pun intended that they've got their own stories. That would hold them back from taking the first step in fill in the blank, and we all get to fill in our own blanks. Is that accurate? Am I saying it back to you in a way that's useful? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's why I believe it back to you in a way that's useful.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, absolutely yeah, and that's why I believe it's so important that people are mindful and take inventory of the stories that they're telling themselves. I've found and this was as a result of attending the Create Powerful course two, three years ago, maybe even longer than that One of the most powerful questions that I believe one could ask themselves, especially in a moment where they may be finding themselves in creation of a story that they don't have evidence to or that, oh, this is going to happen again, this business is going to fail, this woman's going to cheat on me, whatever the case may be, the most powerful question, one of the most powerful questions, I believe, is what makes that true? What makes that true right now? How do you know, or what has you saying, that this business is going to fail? Is it because the last business did Well? Is this business probably set up differently? As a result of that, I would imagine?
Speaker 1:Okay, but it's so easy to then, if we don't catch ourselves auditing what's taking place in our minds, and perhaps ask that question I'm sure there's other ones that could accompany that, or that's just the one that I have in my arsenal that allows me to then examine the evidence, and oftentimes I can't turn up any evidence. So keep going, keep going, folks.
Speaker 2:I that. I find that to be very useful, even though that voice in your head is screaming not to Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it will always visit you because we're humans, obviously we're human beings, but that's our human paying a little visit to your shoulder. I don't know if you can do that, jamie Ryan, I don't know if you got it. Man, I'm going to run 100 miles tomorrow and I know, at some point around a track 400 laps around Stonyfield to raise money for a couple of nonprofits, I'm certain that at some point that human or that voice is going to come visit me. Maybe it's at mile 20. Maybe it's at mile 70. Maybe it's at mile 40. Hey, you should slow down. You might not make it, you might not have what it takes, and I can believe that and I can find a way to justify, just like many people can justify. Yeah, maybe I don't have it. What evidence do you have? I've already ran 30 or 40 miles, so just keep going, don't let this guy on the shoulder win. We're more powerful than that. We're powerful creators.
Speaker 2:By the way, I'm laughing at how casual you just said. Yeah, tomorrow's Friday at noon I'm going to run 100 miles. I mean, most people don't like to drive 100 miles. But most importantly and I would say when people watch this, it'll be after the fact it'll be too late, but it goes to the character of the man in front of me Tell everyone why you're running that 100 miles.
Speaker 1:Running 100 miles to raise money for two nonprofits here in Charleston, south Carolina Charleston Hope and Queston Recovery. May is Mental Health Month Mental Health Month. Both of these organizations are committed to improving mental health in the lives of youth and young adults. So this is what we'd like to say is more than the miles. So, by doing something really challenging and my friend, sean Rhodes, started this idea, so the credit all goes to Sean I just so happen to be participating and running some laps, but we are going to do something hard to inspire people to challenge themselves in a way that maybe they haven't before and, as a result, encourage people, hey. And, as a result, encourage people, hey, contribute. If you want to run one lap, you can contribute a dollar or $10 to run 10 laps.
Speaker 1:Whatever you want to do, let's make this an event where we're going to challenge our bodies and minds in service of others and, as a result, we get to help two amazing, amazing organizations. So it's going to be a blast. There's going to be dozens of people out there running all different distances. What I find to be most special about this, having done a couple of these through Breaking Ribbons, is there's people that will come out and run more than they ever have before, because they're surrounded by a great company that is committed to a great cause. So I can't wait to see that tomorrow there's going to be people running their first marathons, their first ultra marathons, their first 100 miles, their first five miles, and all of it is going to be special and we get to help people and it's going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's inspiring. Thank you, I'm so glad that you mentioned it. We can't not say something about the podcast on the 200th episode, to be clear. So 200 episodes, that's over three and a half years, that's 46 months. Have you skipped a single?
Speaker 1:week, not since week 64. So when I first started I was nervous, bought into the stories. What if no one listens? What if no one subscribes? What if the interview sucks? All the things that stop people from the things that they want the most. So I remember I put out a few. There was only one period of time where there was a three week gap, but that was in 2021. But since then there have been episodes consistently, every, every consistently, almost every week, until 64, but at 64 to now 200 and now declaring to 300 and beyond. Not a single Monday missed since 2022, september of 2022.
Speaker 1:So this will be and that's where I was sharing with you and even with christina before coming in here that sure that my streak is 140 ish, something like that, weeks in a row, but I don't really see it as something to quote celebrate. It's just a part of who I am. We don't really see it as something to quote celebrate, because it's just a part of who I am. We don't talk about how many days in a row we showered, why? Because it's hopefully a part of what we all should be doing every day. Yeah, jamie, I brushed my teeth 365 days in a row, great. Well, you should right. This is something that I see as a part of me and bar none.
Speaker 1:Every Monday, my commitment is to deliver, and knowing that it's so much bigger than me, again, it's every Monday. Sure, there's going to be powerful conversations with amazing guests all over the world. There's going to be more people that I have the pleasure of speaking with, just like you, jamie, and people will learn from the guests. But then also, again, I really see it as just something so much bigger. It's an invitation, it's inspiration to do the thing that maybe you've been wanting to do for so long, and this just so happened to get you over the hurdle. Win today is way bigger than Ryan Cass way bigger than Ryan Cass, and I'm really happy that it's become that and am stoked for what it will become in the future.
Speaker 1:I was sitting here yesterday, actually in the room right across from us, just journaling about what is my ultimate dream and where do I see things going in life and when I really think about this podcast and its potential and just the direction it's going. Obviously, someday, I imagine that this room we're sitting in will be my own unique studio. There'll be some different stuff on the walls, more people will be excited for every Monday, and perhaps even we get to the point where it comes out multiple times for a week and more people are talking about the impact and the transformation that it's helped catalyze in their lives, because it's not me that's doing it. It's them making the choice and they're doing the work. Maybe this episode played this much of a role in it and that's all we need.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I want to give you a little more credit than it's just like hey, I showered every day. There are certain social norms and pressures that I believe make like brushing your teeth a no-brainer, or hey, I've never walked out of the house and gone to work in the nude, like things like that. What you're describing I'm giving you a little more credit than you are with the podcast is you're taking extraordinary, making it ordinary and, like I give you credit and anyone can do that Like you didn't like corner the market on that, nor did I, and I would want everyone who's watching and listening, who's been hearing your story, to know they've got their own version of that they can do, whether it's tell my spouse I love them every day, or go to the gym every day, or you fill in the blank. So I just want to let you know that it's not as casual.
Speaker 2:As you said, ryan, I see your podcast as an extension of you. So over the past, well, it's been more than just 3.8 years because you've had some breaks in the first 64. Can you identify when you think about your earlier podcasts and coming right up until the last one I saw, which is 199, when you think about how you showed up to them. Can you draw some? Can you put language to some parallels in what's been going on in your life, as far as you evolving and transforming outside the podcast? That is reflected in how you bring yourself as the host to the podcast.
Speaker 1:So, if I understand that, or for the way I interpret that is, what are some external influences that have contributed to the podcast? What do you see? How has that evolved over time?
Speaker 2:In you as the host of the podcast. What's happening outside that has the impact on you? I'll call this inside in the podcast oh man.
Speaker 1:All sorts of things.
Speaker 2:A couple that stand out.
Speaker 1:When I think back to the beginning, to present day, and some of the things that have, I'd say, enhanced the podcast over time that perhaps have been attributed to things going on outside of the podcast. First, as I've released episodes that have really dug into things, that certain things that I've never shared with anybody else but have been open enough to share here, and then receiving the feedback of how that's greatly benefited other people, it's made me even more excited to one. It's made me more confident as a, as a host, as an interviewer, as a solo producer, sometimes of just me on the camera. It has greatly impacted my confidence there. But I'm a student outside of this and as I've become this and as I've become more and more invested into the pod, where it's going, where I believe it can go, I've taken what I've seen from some of the folks that I admire the most, whether they're podcast hosts, whether they're performance coaches, and made my best effort to incorporate that into my language, into the types of questions that I'm going to ask. I've found that I've been able to create much deeper conversations with guests and really get into the extract, the meat and bones that maybe they haven't shared on other shows. Um, what I'm getting at is I've found that by deeply investing in personal development and again I'll give credit to where it's due and really because this is true to me and that by investing in resources and courses such as Create Powerful and truly doing the work to transform myself, I'm finding that the level of conversations that are taking place here now, whether it's with a guest or with just me pouring something out into the world, has substantially enhanced the show, its perceived value and benefit to listeners. So this isn't just me casually logging on. All right, I'm going to get my episode out there on Monday. This is work and it's a lot of intense study outside of here.
Speaker 1:I believe success leaves clues and while I'd say I'm not chasing fame or notoriety, I do again envision this show being much more highly recognized than it is now because of the underlying mission and intent that this is what helps create change in people's lives and invitations, week in and week out, for people to experience the best version of themselves. And in order for that to be true and take place, I've got to constantly invest in myself, study myself. What were my interviews like back then? What sounds good, what doesn't? Let's make some changes here so that we can continue to deliver on the value. And I'm sure when I go on episode 400, I'm going to listen to episode 200 or 300 and say who is that guy, just like I do in the early episodes. I still go back and listen to them sometimes. Sometimes I get hard on myself and say put that out there.
Speaker 1:What the heck was that? But being my own science experiment has gotten this show to where it is now, and it's my commitment to show up in the best way possible to whoever is graciously paying me the time and attention on a Monday or whenever they tune in, that they're going to get something that's going to help them grow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you. I love that. When you and I were talking a couple of days ago in prep for this, there are three things that you shared with me and I would love for you to speak into them and with whatever is on your heart or your mind to share, and the first of the three which I love was you can create anything. So what is it about that idea that you would want to share right now?
Speaker 1:I believe we're all powerful creators, and that's something that has evolved substantially over the last few years, in that the only thing that we can't do is whatever we say we can't do. What has me so convicted in that is, even if we look at this journey right here, go back to the very, very beginning, and really how I describe myself to people sometimes is I'm just a man keeping a promise to a little boy, because I remember there was a particular night in my life. Police showed up at our home and there'd been many nights like this, but my dad had just gotten caught Not to go too deep into that, and I promised myself that day that I'm never going to carry this on as a six, seven-year-old kid. I'm never going to put my future family through this and the people that I love through this right now, and I've never lost sight of that. But if a kid that grew up in a broken household, that was angry at the world, that wasn't the most athletically gifted and perhaps didn't put a whole lot of investment into academics until we ended up right here, can go on to then create now a top 2%, globally performing podcast and a few other cool things that you said about me, so can you, so can anybody listening. It's available. Whatever you want truly whatever you want is available to you when you can push past whatever story you're telling yourself, or rather, when you understand whatever story you may be telling yourself. That's holding you back.
Speaker 1:I wasn't a gifted runner. Growing up, I was one of the slowest kids on my team. I used to throw up after baseball practice when we'd do long Indian runs. And here we are now about to go and run 100 miles tomorrow, having ran the Boston Marathon and qualified three years in a row having ran 150 miles. I don't say that to toot my own horn. I say that again to go back to there was a time in my life where I thought running 10 miles was impossible, thought that running 10 miles was impossible. One thing, one action, one step. Repeat that again and again and again and again and again.
Speaker 1:Put out a podcast episode every Monday. Again and again and again and again and again. Study where you have opportunities to improve. Take action on that. Repeat, repeat, repeat. You can do anything Like. I don't see why this couldn't become one of the top podcasts in the world. What's it going to take? Keep showing up, keep studying the craft, sharpening the craft, if someone listening wanted to start a show or launch a business. It's not going to turn into an overnight wonder tomorrow. I wish it does. I'm sure we all do. I'm rooting for you, whoever's listening. But I believe that's one thing that we have such an opportunity that we may have lost sight of and that may perhaps social media may have can wrongly dissuade us or persuade us that all these things come instantly. You know, here's my 30 second reel to show you when you're really willing to put forth the countless hours towards whatever it is it's most that occurs to you is most meaningful, important. You can do it. You already have all the tools yeah and I'm just.
Speaker 1:I continue to prove myself right with that and in doing so, share the lessons with people so perhaps they can get there faster, but ultimately so they can see hey, you can do this, you can do this.
Speaker 2:It reminds me of a quote. Whether you think you can or you think you cannot, you're right. Henry Ford, one of my favorites. Yeah, very appropriate. The second thing you said and we've touched upon it. So if there's anything else you said and I love this consistency wins, and you just talked about it as part of the first one. Is there anything else about consistency that you would want to say or haven't said?
Speaker 1:I believe it could be summed up in that consistency always wins. But rather, a lot of people may ask how can you be so consistent? Perhaps sharing some things that have helped to remain so consistent may be a benefit to folks listening. So this podcast has come out 140-ish weeks in a row, every Monday, without fail, just as an example. Part of what keeps me consistent outside of this is an invitation every Monday, and I see it as a tool to help people grow, and that's my, I feel, is my commitment to make a difference in this world, commitment to make a difference in this world.
Speaker 1:I declare exactly where this is going when episode 100 came out and when you commented on that post roughly two years ago. Now we're literally right on schedule and by putting it out there in the world that, hey, we're going to hit number 200 and 300 and 400. I value being my word and I don't want to put something out in the world that I'm going to have 300 episodes. So 100 weeks from today or from the release of this episode, episode number 300 will come out. That's my declaration and now it's my opportunity to go and execute on that, because I value being my word.
Speaker 1:So, people, when you share your goals with a group of people, or when you write down your goals or write down what you're going to do, studies show you're 42% more likely to accomplish it because now it's mentally programmed in your mind. When you share it with a group of people, studies show that you're roughly 70% more likely to accomplish it. So how can you become 70% more likely to accomplish anything in this world? Be clear on what it is that you're gonna, that you're gonna do. Put it out there. If you value being your word, you're you're gonna take more action than you would have had nobody known about it. Yeah, and that's. That's my simple playbook for developing consistency. It's all simple, by the way it is.
Speaker 2:It's all simple by the way it is, it's all simple. You said something when we first started about the complexities and I smiled, because we, as human beings, are masterful at making everything more complex it needs to be, and we make messes as a result, ryan. The third thing you said was about the work being therapeutic in its relationship to your relationship with the past. What would you want to share about that?
Speaker 1:yeah, when I shared the greatest gift I've ever received in my life and I'm smiling about it again. There was a time in my life where one period those years growing up certainly was not seen as the greatest gift in my life, nor was I in a place to recognize it as such. The more that I speak on it and share and extract the goodness from it, and share and extract the goodness from it, I feel as if it's the more that I become friends with it or at peace with it and I've found it to help me heal, and that when I talk about it now, it's not that I completely forget all of the difficult times. Those are very vivid memories, but what's present for me is how this has created this right now, today, and all of the good that has come from it and by, I believe, by talking about the things and studying the things not just talking about it, but really studying the things that may have been most impactful in your life and maybe, at the time, very traumatic and painful you can wire yourself to immediately focus on how that's helped you versus how that brought you down. I shared another one in that when I came home from work that one day in St Louis, everything's gone. I remember I fell to my knees, I was crying, everything. I was bawling, thought that I was a failure, and I can tell you, with a smile on my face, that's another just amazing thing that happened for me.
Speaker 1:I believe things only happen for us in life, not to us, when we train ourselves to view it from the lens of growth and opportunity. How do you do that? Study it, spend time with it. Again, you don't need to put it out in a podcast If you do, great, but get it out of your mind, put it on something, and then you'll see the things that maybe you would have never seen before. And so when I do share these things, even right now, again, this is a therapeutic conversation in that I know I believe to be true that without those things, I don't know if I would, if I would have ended up here, if we would have come to to know each other and build an amazing relationship and God knows what else you know.
Speaker 1:But I wouldn't trade those things for the world. And it's my wish that, obviously, if we got to write the book of our lives, if we owned every chapter, there would be no divorces, there would be no adultery. There would be no these crimes, these heinous things that we see on the news that is heartbreaking. There would be none of that. But weous things that we see on the news that is heartbreaking. There would be none of that. But we don't get to write all the chapters. We get to write most of them and we get to write many chapters as a result of the chapters that we didn't have full control of. But we always have control of our response and my response to those things is man, so much good, so much good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ryan, when we first began, I sort of teased a date and it's one of the chapters that you didn't write January 23rd 2019, and you've spoken about it before getting hit by the vehicle and being in the hospital. And one thing that I took from what you shared is what I guess you can call a gift. You experienced both of your parents in the hospital room and maybe for the first time in a long time or as far as you can recollect, they could actually be in a room together. And I'm sort of glossing over all the details only because you've shared it before, but I don't want to miss anything that's important. The question I have as you've evolved, like you think about it now, here we are in 2025 and you think back to six years ago do you learn anything new? And I'm just using that experience simply for the purpose of the question, and it's a chapter Do you learn anything new? Thinking about it now, like, as you evolve, do you see it differently, and does your lessons learned evolve about it?
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, and I believe that's where you can read a book one time, learn something. You can read a book for the seventh time in a row and feel as if you're discovering something for the first time, like wait, that wasn't there.
Speaker 1:It's like no, yeah, it was the whole time, but you may not have been awake to it at that moment, so it couldn't speak to you the way it is right now. So when I think back to waking up in that hospital room and seeing my parents there, after you know, I just got hit by an suv and they're, of course, amicable. Now, one thing I I think about is or that that has come clear to me more recently, as now I share the lesson with others is we're often holding on to things for no reason other than we think we need to hold on to it. That that instant right there, that instance, was a clear example that, had I not been hit by that car and my parents were in this room right now, if it was January 23rd 2019, if they were in this room, just the three of us normally wouldn't be fun. Why? Because at the time, a lot of experiences, memories, resentment from the previous 20 years were all coming back up to life and they would go at it. Now their son is, I want to say, a life-threatening situation, but I know that there were. I mean, I guess if you get hit by a car going 40 miles an hour, that's pretty life-threatening. I guess if you get hit by a car going 40 miles an hour, that's pretty life-threatening, but fortunately I wasn't in the ICU or anything, but I was about to potentially go under an emergency surgery. They realize none of this stuff matters. That's why I believe it's important to really examine what do we have in the backpack right now.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I feel as if we're quick to blame or judge people for responding to certain things in the way that they are Not to justify a poor response from somebody or somebody acting in a certain manner. But it's important to understand. Hey, what was it about that moment that may have bugged you so much? If you were walking around with a 50-pound rucksack all day and it's the end of the day, you're probably pretty darn tired, probably not going to have a whole bunch of tolerance for things that maybe you would have had you been fully energized in that moment.
Speaker 1:We often, I believe, walk around with things in a 50-pound rucksack filled with a bunch of junk that we don't need. That, then dictates our current reality, and so what has become more clear to me about that moment, and my reminder to myself and to others, or encouragement to others, is what are you holding on to right now. That is not serving you well, and if you were to let go of it, what would happen? What would the result be? I'll probably be way happier or I'll feel less stressed. Okay, why don't we drop it? Most people can't justify holding on to the thing.
Speaker 2:No, but they'll still hold on to it Like your parents. Yeah, but you were a catalyst for them to, at least in that amount of time, drop a story enough to where they could coexist in a room. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty remarkable. I wouldn't recommend anyone get hit by a car to get their parents to do that.
Speaker 2:But it's likely those stories were their identity. Like it's yeah, it's a powerful example of dropping a story and then what's possible when you do yeah, yeah, it's amazing, it's a beautiful thing, it is. Ryan, before we wrap up, is there anything that's present for you, given the opportunity and I know that you don't want to make too big a deal about 200, because it's just another episode, but it's a milestone Is there anything that I haven't asked you or that you haven't spoken into, that's inside of you that you absolutely want to get out right now and share with the listeners?
Speaker 1:I'll go back to, everyone has the tools they already need. I love to beat that one into the ground and I really do believe, hey, if I can do this, so can anyone else. Whether it's a podcast or anything, I wish and I can't reiterate it enough that people get to experience themselves as powerful creators and that they truly possess the ability to do anything, and I mean literally anything. Maybe we could put a tiny asterisk in there, jamie, that, uh, let's say, you and I wanted to be an nba center. We might need to wear stilts or something like that, but generally speaking, outside of that, and not to say it's totally impossible, right, it would only be us putting that confine on ourselves. But generally speaking, whoever's listening, you can do anything. Yeah, you have what it takes right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and while you use a dramatic example or an extreme example of an MBA center and I agree with you where we pay a price with what you're talking about is in the little things, the things that are so reachable and doable, exactly like we would trying to be an MBA center. It's that big in our minds. It's the separated parents who would fight to the death because of the stories they held. And if someone could, I hope that one person out there heard what you said several times that you've already got it inside of you. You're enough. You have the tools. Drop the stories. Yeah, thank you. You're enough. You have the tools. Drop the stories, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:So, ryan, on this podcast, we like to finish with something that you like to call the rapid fire session, and for those who haven't, and the shorthand for it is, you know, one gem, one step, one book, and you did it to me. I'm going to do it back to you. So, for the folks who are new to this, if we were in an elevator going up and we're going up three floors and a new person came on each floor and they ask you a question, which I'm going to ask you related to one gem, one step and one book. You've got basically the time it takes, not basically you have the time it takes for the elevator to go one floor to give them response to the next. So, for one gem, what's one quote? One quote, one mantra, something that you live by or drives you or inspires you, that I could take, put in my back pocket because I just got on the first floor, that would instruct me towards taking that first step. What would it be?
Speaker 1:Well, I appreciate you preserving the tradition here and we're still going up the elevator. So one gem is one step, one action, one person. Take one step. Take towards what you want. Take one action, help one person. You will change your reality and make a.
Speaker 1:Now the camera in which the microphones were connected to for this discussion died. So the last two questions is one step and one book. Jamie asked what's one step to develop more consistency and achieve your goals, and the simple answer is write down what you want, share it with a group of people, take action towards it. And the next question, and the last one that we always close with, is what's one book that you recommend people read in 2025 to enhance their mindsets and go on this goal-setting journey and live their best lives? Atomic Habits by James Clear. That is, in my view, one of the personal development Bibles.
Speaker 1:This was such an amazing conversation with Jamie and I can't thank him enough for coming on here and interviewing me on WIN today for episode number 200. And I can't thank y'all enough. Whether you're listening to this for the very first time or you've been a listener, you've been a loyal listener. I really appreciate you guys, and every Monday truly is an invitation to step into your greater being, to move closer towards your goals, to take a step that you wouldn't have taken perhaps if it wasn't for a powerful discussion like this. Perhaps if it wasn't for a powerful discussion like this, we're going to go to 300, 400, 500.
Speaker 1:Continue changing lives, continue improving and enhancing the show I believe this is still very much in its infancy, but we're not stopping is going to become the show that I often share as a dream, meaning that this show someday is taking up a lot more of my time, in that it's basically like a full-time job. I can't wait. No doubt it'll happen when you really focus on optimizing your being and focusing on a process of becoming, versus arriving at destinations anything that you want in this life. It's never a matter of if. It's only a matter of when. Thank you so much. Let's go, you.
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