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#197 | The Happy Hustle: Creating A Life Of Harmony Through 'SOULMAPPIN' Ft. Cary Jack
What if you could achieve big success without burning out? In this episode, Cary Jack—bestselling author of The Happy Hustle—shares the powerful "soul mapping" system he created after walking away from a seven-figure deal to reclaim his balance. Tune in for a live self-assessment, practical tips, and a refreshing take on building a life full of purpose, passion, and wellbeing.
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But it's without the burnout, you know, because I think a lot of people glorify the grind culture. So the happy hustle is the antithesis of that, it's just done in a systematic way. And then the verb of like. Happy hustling is actually enjoying passion driven, purpose filled work, while creating income and impact in service of others. Right, so it's just the act of doing it. But having passion, which is, you know, I know it's cliche buzzwords, but it's that inward, calling on your heartstrings, and then purpose is that outward, serving mission right To ultimately make a positive impact. So that's the anatomy of a happy hustler.
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Speaker 2:My ultimate goal is for all of us to systematically harmonize ambition and wellbeing. I want to prove to you that you do not have to settle for what life gives you. You can create the life you desire with hustle, a clear vision, a willingness to persist. Anything is achievable by deciding what you want and what you're willing to do for it. You can begin the journey down the road of happy hustling to get it, while using the 10 alignments to keep you blissfully balanced along the way, Imagine what life would look like as a happy hustler. We've got the happy hustler with us. When he's not inspiring, he's familying, modeling, adventuring and captivating people all over the world. And captivating people all over the world. He's the author of the USA Today bestseller, the Happy Hustle, which we just heard an excerpt from the Happy Hustle 2.0.
Speaker 1:And he is the host of the Happy Hustle podcast. We've got Kerry Jack with us. Welcome, brother.
Speaker 2:Hey, ryan, honored to be here, man. Thank you so much. Stoked man, I remember when I first discovered you. Anyone that's preaching happiness there's like a magnetic force. I love it. I want to learn everything about them. We said some really cool things about you. If we went to your website, we'd see some even more cool things about you. But, kerry, what do you see as the most important thing for the world to know about you?
Speaker 1:Probably that I'm not the guru and don't claim to be the guru of shit, Just the reporter of. Hey, I'm figuring some things out and just reporting back what's been working and what's not.
Speaker 2:There's some humility there. I appreciate you Well. I would consider you the guru of many things, appreciate you Well, I would consider you the guru of many things and, as I'm sure I would be echoed by many, but appreciate the dose of humility there. Now, happy hustling. I believe, looking at your life, the hustle part has always been there. You've had a lucrative career, you were an entrepreneur up in New York City and made it, but the happy part wasn't always there. What was the defining moment or series of moments that led you down this journey of ultimately building the happy hustler that you are today and now captivating the happy hustling audience that you have all over the world?
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, it was when I basically burnt out. I was, like you said, in New York City grinding like a damn dog, just working my tail off a damn dog, just working my tail off 100 plus hour weeks, getting maybe four or five hours of sleep at night, and all for profit, success, ego, status, all the things largely society says are important, and was having a lot of success but ultimately no fulfillment. Sacrificing, like I mentioned in the book, my faith, my family, my fitness, my fun, a lot of that, but ultimately no fulfillment. You know, sacrificing, like I mentioned in the book, my faith, my family, my fitness, my fun, a lot of that stuff that really makes life worth living. All for this glory.
Speaker 1:And ultimately, the catalyst moment to answer your question was when I actually had this contract that this VC investor placed in front of me. You know, seven plus figures in capital that we worked really hard to get. You know, 18 months of really hard work to get to that point. And I realized I couldn't take the money because it came with this five-year clause. And rightfully so. If someone's going to give you that much money, they want to make sure you're in it to win it, right. But I unfortunately realized that this was just not the life I desired. So that was the catalyst moment that sent me on this journey to exiting that company, moving to Bangkok, thailand, for about a year, figuring out a better way to work and live in alignment. And that's where I really started to put the happy in my own hustle, scratch my own itch with this soul mapping system. And then, yeah, as they say, the rest is history.
Speaker 2:I can only imagine what it would feel like seeing your name on a piece of paper and then seeing seven figures next to it. And then seeing seven figures next to it and it's probably you're like, okay, it's as easy as I sign this paper. There we go, we've got probably all the money at the time that you could have ever dreamed of, and ultimately you decide this isn't the right thing to do and you go off and find even greater things and probably discover even more of who you really are. When you go to Thailand. Talk through the time period in which you see your name on that sheet of paper and you see all the zeros to when you then decide to you know what this isn't me. Is it instantly you know and decline, or is it you putter for weeks and you think, all right, here's all the things that we could have. And then Bangkok well, we've got nothing guaranteed here. What was that teeter-totter like? I can only imagine some sort of teeter-totter effect mentally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know my brother and business partner and best friend all the same person, his name's Grant. He and I both knew that we were at our wits' ends, largely, and it just didn't feel right. So the teeter-totter basically was ripping up the paperwork, letting everyone know within that organization and externally who we built partnerships with, that we were moving forward in a different direction and after we made that decision it wasn't really much like back and forth, it was just okay, this is the path forward and I think that's the best way to do it Just rip the Band-Aid, you know, and just get after it and figure out the new direction. So that really is what we did and ultimately I don't have any regrets.
Speaker 2:And now we get on a plane, we're in Thailand, we're in Thailand, we're in Bangkok. Yeah, what does life look like from there, and how does the happy hustle start to evolve?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, I mean Thailand have you ever been to Thailand, ryan?
Speaker 1:Oh, dude, it's on the list. It's epic, yeah, like they call Thailand. It's on the list. It's epic, yeah, like they call Thailand, the land of the smiles. So, within the first week you know me, coming from Montana, growing up, you know Western we just like to go camping and rent an RV or whatever. When I go places, I like to really see it. So I rented an RV as soon as I got there. There's only one person in Thailand that rents RVs and, yeah, we rented one. I met like six people at a hostel and we just took off. I was like you guys want to come with, I'm going. So we cruised the whole country full moon party a bunch of really fun, cool sights to see.
Speaker 1:Definitely not fully proud of who I was back then, cause you know I had different priorities, but, um, yeah, I ended up renting like this penthouse apartment in Bangkok for like 400 bucks a month.
Speaker 1:You know you get fed like a King for like $2 a day, or I mean a meal, excuse me and so you have this geographic arbitrage of your currency, right? So it's just this, um, really great way to experience another culture, um, especially when your your dollar goes a lot further. So that was what life looked like. I was also doing a little bit of acting and modeling over there just to have some money come in, but really what? What transpired was I started to do webinars online and just create like my own website and blog and started making money in a different way and made it in a way that I was actually really serving people, um, in a very like, I guess you would say, in a way that was very freeing, you know, because I had creative time and financial freedom at that time. So it was like, well, this is happy hustling, and so it was just a really great experience in that regard.
Speaker 2:How cool man, you got me wanting to accelerate my timeline to go out to Thailand. I wrote out a life bucket list in 2018 of places to go and things to do and it's broken out by category. There's a sporting bucket list. There's a bucket list that's unique to Charleston, south Carolina, and I make an effort to have a few things crossed off every year and I'm looking at the map. I look at the map often like, okay, when am I going to hit this spot? And everybody that I know that's been to Thailand has had nothing but an incredible experience, and it's the first time I've heard it called the land of smiles.
Speaker 2:But hearing you and then what I've heard from others, it makes sense that it's indeed the land of smiles, and you very vividly illustrated why that's the case. So as you're there, you start feeling this sense of fulfillment in the work that you're doing to help others, and this is where I'd like to really dissect what is the anatomy of a happy hustler, and I listened to you on multiple podcasts. You are, I'd say, the king of acronyms. If we go back to the beginning of what you're a guru of guru of acronyms and you broke out happy hustling into a soul mapping acronym and the 10 alignments. Would love to better understand that, because I know you first described it as this is really just a breakdown of your life and what you have found creates this abundant sense of fulfillment. So let's break down the anatomy of what it really means to be a happy hustler so people can understand this is what life could look like for you as a happy hustler and why it's worth going down this path.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'll read to you. We're just getting these epic t-shirts made, so I'll read to you what's on the back and this is the anatomy of what's a happy hustler. So, basically, as I define it and it can be used as a noun and a verb, right, the happy hustle. So what we talk about as the anatomy of a happy hustler, the noun version, is the systematic harmonization of ambition and well-being, ensuring life balance without burnout. Okay, so just to break that down, the actual systematic part, that's the soul mapping right. And then you get the harmony which is, you know, balance gets a bad rap, but I do believe balance equals happiness. Then ambition, that means, yeah, crush it as an entrepreneur, be, you know, the best that you can be, increasing your income and your impact, and then also have well-being, meaning, you know, take care of self, your soul, be a great husband, father, man of God, community servant, or, you know, whatever, mother, wife, friend, any you know, insert in the blank whatever wellbeing looks like for you, but it's without the burnout you know, cause I think a lot of people glorify the grind culture. So the happy hustle is the antithesis of that. It's just done in a systematic way and then the verb of like. Happy hustling is actually enjoying passion driven, purpose filled work while creating income and impact in service of others, right? So it's just the act of doing it. But having passion, which is, you know, I know it's cliche buzzwords, but it's that inward, calling on your heartstrings, and then purpose is that outward, serving mission right To ultimately make a positive impact. So that's the anatomy of a happy hustler.
Speaker 1:And then you know, to talk about the acronyms, you know I will say this was pre-chat GPT. We created these acronyms, so now you could create acronyms very easy online with the AI. But you know, I spent I don't even know man so many hours creating these damn acronyms. But I do believe, just a pro tip for anyone out there looking to create content or have a personal brand you need your own IP, and so you need to have your special sauce within your content. And so that's what this is for us. And so, yeah, the soul mapping system. Happy to get into it, but we'll take it where you want.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love it, and what I also love about soul mapping is that within each of those elements there's an acronym to easily digest it. So we won't go through all of them. But going back, you mentioned that you brought up the balance word. The way that we often see it portrayed these days. I feel like I see more of a negative connotation with it that a lot of the business gurus of the bigger names say balance is garbage. You shouldn't think about that in your personal or professional pursuits. That's a thing of the past. And then there's another camp that argues that balance is essential and it's absolutely necessary. In your pursuits. You have a positive connotation in relationship with the word. What does that look like for you? And, ultimately, what has you on the positive side and seeing balance as an essential item in our journey and our hustling journey?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I have experienced the opposite of balance and burnt Can.
Speaker 2:I say it Go for it.
Speaker 1:I burnt the fuck out, you know, and so I know what it looks like to not have balance. I also know what it looks like to have it, and for me, life is much sweeter when I am focusing on these 10 different areas, these 10 alignments. Now, to be clear, to achieve greatness in any category or any niche or any industry, you will go through periods, no-transcript, a state of imbalance. Okay, so I'm not saying you're constantly going to be perfectly balanced, because that's just unrealistic. It really is, however, how I look at it, as if I can focus on these 10 key areas of life, measure myself in each, then reflect on the data and then prioritize change accordingly. Where there's a fast feedback loop, then I don't get myself or my family or anyone around me in a state of disarray and I remain centered and holistically happy. So I know again, balance does get a pretty bad rep by a lot of people, but for me, I don't think there's a better way to live life.
Speaker 1:You see, some of the greatest people in the world, from Michael Jordan, for example, who sacrificed everything to become the greatest basketball player yeah, he has that title, but what has he lost in the process? Elon Musk, the greatest entrepreneur of our time. Would I trade places with him? No, you know, like he's got 14 kids, 17 baby mamas I don't know how many whatever but you know it's like he's imbalanced because he's achieving greatness in this one category right of business and entrepreneurial ventures, greatness in this one category, right of business and entrepreneurial ventures. But in order to, for me, leave this earth and this meat suit, you know where I'm proud of who I am and what I've accomplished. I know that balance has to be a part of the picture. So for me, it's a personal choice to prioritize it.
Speaker 2:It's nice to hear a positive connotation with the word and that encouragement that, hey, this is something that we can strive for. There will be times where it's not in alignment, given that we're going after big things in multiple facets of life, but that doesn't always need to be the case, and you're a shining example of that I'll never forget. This is going on 10 years in the corporate world for me now, since I graduated college and very early in my career. There was a colleague of mine that left a mentoring session with his mentor, who was very high up in the finance chain of command, was one of our divisional CFOs and, on paper, was telling him that he had everything. He had made nearly 800K the year before, has the dream cars, multiple homes, yet he was on the road 265 days that year. His wife left him and he felt like he barely knew his kids. If you asked anybody if they would sign up for that, you'd probably have a resounding hell. No, because there's certain things in life that you can't put a price tag on, and it makes me think back to the very beginning now of what would have happened had you signed the dotted line with your name next to that seven figures on it, we probably wouldn't have the carry jack that we do today, so I appreciate that you shared that with us. Now, with with that, I do want to break down soul mapping, and we don't need to jump into deep into every single one, but let's get into. This is, I call, the tactical side. If we're going to be a happy hustler in 2025, then there's 10 items that it's important for us to be in alignment with in order to experience this sense of abundance and fulfillment that you have, kerry. So what are the elements of soul mapping that you've crafted? And, with that, perhaps a small example or a little bit of context behind each one?
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Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. Well, ryan, you might've heard me do this on a potter once or twice before, but if you want, we could just go through the assessment and you could write down your scores and then everyone else listening or watching can write down your scores, and then everyone else listening or watching can write down their scores and they can just tactically get a real-time score of where they're at in their blissful balance, do you?
Speaker 1:want to do that All right, man. So, and for everyone else out there listening again, I urge you to become an active participant, not just a passive listener. So we'll go through these 10 different areas. Give yourself a score one to five. So five is you're crushing it. If you're happy, hustling, you got an A in that, given alignment. One is like an F like you're failing. You need to prioritize change accordingly, and then subsequently two, three and four, you can kind of figure it out.
Speaker 1:So the first piece to the soul mapping system is the S, which is selfless service. So I want you to think in context of just the last 30 days, not like your whole life. Okay, if you volunteered in high school, that doesn't really count for this exercise. Okay, I'm happy that you did. But let's just think about right now, real time snapshot in the last 30 days. Where would you rank yourself in selfless service? Five is an A You're crushing it. You've been volunteering regularly. You're giving your time, your money, your expertise Our acronym here is GIFT Give Insight, finances and Time. One is like an F You're failing. You're largely living for yourself. So just write down your score, ryan, and then, if you want, we can just run through it at the end, or if you want to interject every time you tell me it's your show.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, definitely a five there, and that's something we talk about a lot on the podcast. That the best gift is to give back and that be our time, our expertise, our value. That's how we make this world a better place. All right, I got a five, love it, all right.
Speaker 1:So then you have an O is optimized health, and I know you're a beast with your health, so you probably are high in this one. But for everyone out there, you know, watching, listening, give yourself an honest score Last 30 days. Where would you rank yourself? Five is you know you're very conscious, you're, you're feeling optimized mentally, physically, emotionally. One is like you're very conscious, you're, you're feeling optimized mentally, physically, emotionally. One is like you're failing. It's like an f, you know, maybe again shoving crap down the pie hole, not taking care of yourself, right? So where would you rank yourself? Five? Okay, awesome, I figured all right?
Speaker 1:U is unplugged digitally. So this is tough one for especially high performers, entrepreneurs, aspiring aspiring entrepreneurs, people out there building side hustles, like we're constantly surrounded by our technology. But I've found the happiest people I know. Use tech, don't let it use them. So you have to mitigate your exposure, be very deliberate with barriers. You know we have an acronym again within this one um break. Is this one Um? Essentially? I hear my little son crying. Hopefully he goes back to sleep. It's nap time for him and I'm on duty if he wakes up, so apologies in advance. Everyone but the? U is unplugging digitally. So give yourself a score one to five in this one. How often are you using tech? Five is you're being very diligent, you're very specific, One is not so much you're kind of failing.
Speaker 2:You're low-key, maybe addicted to your scrolling ig or netflix and chilling or whatever I'm a three, I'm getting a lot better, and actually one of the habits that I've got this month is keeping screen time at 15 minutes or less on the phone, 15 minutes or less on the phone, nice, very good, all right.
Speaker 1:Then you got L loving relationships. So L is, you know, having that love in your life with your family, your friends, your inner circle. Five is you're crushing it. Lots of plentiful pleasure and abundance there in the love department. One not so much.
Speaker 1:We're yet in L, all right, so everyone out there listening watch it should have four scores. Okay, now we'll get into the mapping part. So M stands for mindful spirituality. And again, you know, I don't care who you believe in, or what you believe, or one religion or another. I just think it's important to have faith in something bigger than yourself. So where are you at in connecting to a higher power, ryan Five is you're very, you know, intentional and you're doing something daily to really tap in, or one is not so much.
Speaker 2:That's a focus item as well, but I wouldn't call myself a champ, so four Four, all right.
Speaker 1:A is abundance financially Okay. So a lot of people think it's the most important one, but it's not. They're all equally important. So abundance financially okay. So a lot of people think it's the most important one, but it's not, they're all equally important. So abundance financially is do you have a system to save, invest and spend wisely, right? Um, or maybe not. Maybe you're kind of living paycheck to paycheck, stressed about your finances. You know um. Five is you're crushing it. One is your family. Where are we at All right? Then P is personal development. So you know you're either growing and evolving or you're shrinking and dissolving. That's kind of one of our mottos at the Happy Hustling. So we focus on the 30-30-30 system of guaranteed growth. It's 30 minutes of reading in the morning, 30 minutes of listening in the afternoon or 30 minutes of watching in the evening all inspirational and educational content. So five is you're crushing it. You're very intentional about your personal development.
Speaker 2:One, not so much. We preach that a lot here. Big time, let's go. We are our own science experiments and our own machines, and we possess far more power than we ever believe, and we can unlock that by spending time on ourselves every day.
Speaker 1:Love it. Then we have the other P, which is passionate hobbies, right, passionate hobbies means doing fun things for yourself. You know, I believe this is one that lacks greatly for high performers, and so for me, it's treated just the same as a podcast, as a business meeting, as a date night. It's a. It's a date with myself, right. And so you know, I have things I like to do. I mean playing soccer with the guys, bow hunting, fly fishing, hiking, snowboarding, a lot of outdoor stuff here in Montana, but I do treat it with the utmost importance because it affects my overall well-being. So where are you at, ryan, in your passionate hobbies? Five is you're crushing it. You're very intentional. One not so much. We're at a four, four, All right.
Speaker 1:I is impactful work. So impactful work means, you know, actually again doing something that you feel passionate and you also have purpose behind it and you're making a positive impact. Right, and it'd be great if you have income coming in from doing those things that ultimately positively impact others in the process. Where are you at in this one? Five is, you know, obviously crushing it, feeling very aligned. One not so much, okay. And then we have n is nature connection. So nature connection is getting outside, tapping into you know nature's glory, um, and also protecting nature, being a part of the solution, focusing on just being a good steward of the land, using your dollars wisely to essentially be a conscious consumer, voting every time you spend your dollars for sustainable supply chains and businesses that are doing things the right way. Where would you put yourself?
Speaker 2:on this. Definitely out in nature a ton have an opportunity to invest more sustainably. So that's going to be a four.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you're crushing it, man. So now, everyone out there listening and watching, give yourself a score, I mean total up your score, and then you should know where you're at like, basically by tallying those 10 scores, and then, if you have a 40 or above, technically, you are happy hustling. If you are 39 or below, technically, you have some work to do.
Speaker 2:I'm a 43. So I'm a happy hustler. Let's go, baby.
Speaker 1:You're crushing it, man. You are. That's impressive, seriously, and you know, I appreciate you being bold and brave and doing it live on the air and for everyone else out there. You know, maybe you were able to see some gaps in terms of where you may be lacking, and that's really what this is, man. It's a baseline, so you got to give yourself grace. But one of the number one principles of happy hustling is okay, we have these 10 different areas of life. They are all equally important, but you have to focus on one at a time, right? So it's just, you know, something that I find a lot of people lack, and it's, you know, like, okay, I'm going to be praying to God, but I'm also thinking about, oh, what I got to do on my to-do list, right, it's like you're double dipping in terms of your attention, you know, and obviously this is ironic as I sit here and hold my son on the podcast. But you know this is happy hustling. I guess that is fine.
Speaker 2:We could tie that back to the love and relationships. Right, you know you're practicing it live on air and you're keeping your five out of five. I really appreciate the live assessment versus talking about each element individually and going from there not to say that wouldn't have been useful. But, kerry, this really occurs to me as a highly useful and practical scorecard that people can not only take value from doing it once, but repeatedly. I would see myself using this on a fairly frequent basis to ensure that we stay in alignment, so not just okay. Yeah, I'm above a 40. I'm happy hustling. Well, life happens. There's a lot of. There's 10 items here. So if we're not vigilant and intentional, some of those fives could become fours, and fours to threes and threes to twos and so on. So how do you use this system to keep yourself in check and how often are you going through this assessment on your own?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so we have a blissful balancer. It's actually a whiteboard fridge magnet. I'll send you one, do you?
Speaker 2:know, but I saw it on the website.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'll get you one man, just um, get sent over your address. I'll send it to my assistant. But uh, we'll get you a swag pack. We should have sent that already.
Speaker 1:But anyway, the blissful balancer man is the key really, and it's just tracking yourself every single day in these 10 different areas and it's binary, so you have a specific action task that is associated with that alignment. So, for instance, optimize health Did you move your ass for at least 25 minutes and drink a gallon of water or whatever? Right, it's yes or no, and you check it off if you did. Did you, you know, for abundance financially, send 10, you know text messages or emails to prospective clients, right, yes or no? And so if you track yourself daily, then at the end of the week you are able to see very clearly where you're lacking and then where you need to prioritize change. So typically I'm not perfect Again, I don't claim to be but you know, typically when I'm on my shit and I'm doing, you know like, uh, the, the, the list will balancer.
Speaker 1:I'll check in every single day and then I'll do a once a week, on Sunday evenings, a reflection of the week that just took place, and then I prioritize change for the week ahead evenings, a reflection of the week that just took place. And then I prioritize change for the week ahead so we also have the assessment on our um, on our website, for free, you know. And then we also have an app that's um being built as we speak. That will be daily check-ins and then weekly check-ins so that people can actually do it. I wanted to make it analog, meaning off tech, just so people. You know, people go in their fridge typically three times a day, so you'll see it, it's a constant reminder. I recommend doing it there, but then you'll be able to take a picture of your blistle bouncer. It'll upload it to text so that way you can track it over time where you're at in your scores, as well as if you just rather fill it out. You know, digitally. So that's, uh, typically my. I love that and really this.
Speaker 2:This speaks to the importance of having a system around what it is that we want to create in this life, because there's so many things we may have in our head, our minds as to what we want to do or what I've found about goals, and James Clear talks about this in his book Atomic Habits, about this in his book Atomic Habits Goals are really just your pie in the sky, but what really gets you.
Speaker 2:There are building systems that are in alignment with the goals that you may have and, I believe, in alignment with really who you want to become, and I see soul mapping as a process that can really shift someone's being, because when we think about all the things we want to create in this life, it's really a process of becoming. And with the 10 alignments, kerry, I can imagine that some of these are completely on autopilot for you by now, like, for instance, with our, with the oh, you and I are both fit guys and regardless of probably whatever we're going through in life, that will never drop. But I could see some of these where, if we're not very mindful even with where we're at in our lives now that they could slip up a little bit. Is there been any of the alignments for you that you've either struggled with or you know. If you're not extremely mindful of that, it slips a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean again, you know it is a constant practice of failing forward and you know, you see your weeks in reflection and you're like, damn, I dropped the ball on unplugged digitally this week. I was on my devices. You know one of the things that if I find myself struggling, sometimes it is unplugging digitally because you know I run an online business, so it's like I got to be online, so that has been an interesting journey. In the morning and the evening, you know, device free and then, um, you know, one hour of social media a day. Uh, have my team run a lot of it and, and you know, it's just, it's a constant practice, depending on what's going on that week.
Speaker 1:I do a lot of, you know, stuff in the wilderness, where I'm completely off the grid, so that's nice, uh, to get those breaks. Then, I don't know, man, I guess so lately, since I had a son, I will say, um, okay, I will say that selfless service is taking a back seat and I've just been focused on my, my fatherhood journey, just being a new father. It's, it's, uh, it's, it's rocked my world, to be honest, got my ass kicked for six months. I was like it was a lot harder than people said it was going to be, and it's also the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced, but it's definitely basically detracted my ability to volunteer as much as I would like. So those are two.
Speaker 2:Well, you've got an awesome looking son there and he's definitely going to be a champion. Well, you've got an awesome looking son there and he's definitely a he's going to be a champion, a hustling world champion. So, kerry, you've interviewed some of the brightest thought leaders in the world on the Happy Hustle and I imagine that your time spent with them has influenced some of the work you do and has also helped you craft and refine the frameworks that you offer to people today. What have you found that is a common thread amongst some of the best of the best as it relates to how they approach their lives, develop themselves and make the world a better place.
Speaker 1:Some of the things obviously you talk about discipline, but you know, discipline is definitely one of them. Discipline equals freedom, as Jocko Wilnick says right. So that is definitely one that I see as a common thread. Also, you know, gratitude. I know these are like kind of cliche answers, but having an attitude of gratitude, just being extremely grateful for everything you do have, um, and then just a positive, optimistic outlook, I say those are three.
Speaker 2:Kerry, how do we, before we wrap up, how do we keep up with you and all of the great work that you're putting out into the world and stay on top of the happy hustle movement?
Speaker 1:Yeah, thehappyhustlecom. And just check us out at Kerry Jack on Instagram and all other places.
Speaker 2:Kerry, we've got a closing tradition on the podcast. It's called One Gem, one Step, one Book. And imagine that we're going to get lunch together at a cool place in Montana. We're going to get lunch together at a cool place in Montana. We're going up three floors on an elevator and someone gets in on each floor and they're going up one floor and they ask you a question. So the amount of time you have to answer is the amount of time it takes to go up one floor. So the first person hops in and they recognize you, they love the happy hustle, and they ask Carrie, what's one gem that you have, whether it be a quote or a mantra, that you live your life by? That I can put in my back pocket and live my life by Balance equals happiness, amen. Next person gets on Kerry, what's one step that I can take today to become a happy hustler? Read the book. Last one, kerry what's one book besides yours that you recommend us reading in 2025 to enhance our mindsets? The Compound of Press Great book Now.
Speaker 2:Kerry, it's been a pleasure having you on and we also appreciated the guest appearance from your little man. He's a champion. Really appreciate you breaking down what it means to be a happy hustler and when we're in alignment with the 10 alignments of being a happy hustler, which are easily accessible to everybody, and when we really take soul mapping seriously, we can become happy hustlers and win today. Thanks so much for tuning in you.
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